That’s Right Nate

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Teachers Faling Our Kids

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I’ve talked about it before, but with a new study coming out today its become clearer than ever that our public schools aren’t cutting it.  Its a fact that the school day and calendar are too short – Canada may be one of the top school systems in the world with the same basic schedule, but they don’t have the powerful not teaching unions we have.  I resent the huge salaries paid to teachers in these public schools and I believe we need to go to non-union charter schools where a board of directors makes the money.

It is for this reason that I wish to start the Nate Peele Charter Academy for Academic Excellence.  The students will go to school for 300 days per year from 8AM until 6PM, but there will be no homework as the students will have a longer school day.  The typical 4th grader’s school day would go like this:

8:00 – 8:15 Prayer and silent reflection

8:15 – 9:00 Reading

9:00 – 9:45 Math

9:45 – 11:00 American History

11:00 – 12:00 Gym

12:00 – 12:30 Lunch

12:30 – 1:45 Science (This will also include theology and will include Intelligent Design and morality)

1:45 – 2:45 Gun Safety

2:45 – 3:45 Junior ROTC

3:45- 4:30 Reading II

4:30 – 5:15 Math II

5:15 – 6:00 Self Defense

I am going to actively look for a site and investors to see if this plan can become a reality.  Chicago has a wonderful program for starting charter schools called Rennaisanse 2010 that I would love to be a part of.  My teachers would be young and energetic with experience in business and totally nonunionized. 

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Written by thatsrightnate

April 1, 2008 at 4:55 pm

Posted in Education, Teachers

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  1. Maybe if your own teachers had been paid more, you would know how to spell the word-‘failing.’
    When you start your charter school, perhaps you should include:
    8:00 to 10:00 Spelling and Basic Grammar
    By the way-a fourth grader in school until 6:00? Are you insane as well as a poor speller?

    andthebrain

    April 1, 2008 at 5:34 pm

  2. And there should really be a comma in the title of this blog, before the word “Nate.” Direct address.
    Sorry, to be picky, but I had good teachers who drilled this stuff a lot. Public school teachers.

    This might be a spoof, though. Can’t really tell.

    woodlass

    April 1, 2008 at 5:56 pm

  3. Andthebrain–Its a blog and I was in a hurry. Picking on spelling is the last act of the defenseless. Kids go a lot later than 6 in China and Korea. Educate yourself.

    Woodass–Public school teachers is not a sentence.

    thatsrightnate

    April 1, 2008 at 6:11 pm

  4. Hmm…..

    Obviously you are a sideliner as far as education is concerned. When was the last time that you were on a elementary school campus? As a teacher I can tell you that we are doing the best that we can, and it is NOT, I repeat is NOT something that you can put on the teachers. We get up at 6:00 to get to school at 7:00, spend 8 hours of the day teaching, then spend to two to three hours of the day preparing for the next day, tutoring, and helping students with extra-curricular stuff to help “motivate” them into becoming social human beings.

    Andthebrain has it right, asking a fourth grader even in China or Japan to remain focused until 6:00 is not only ludacris, but beyond childhood development. Your doing more than reaching by asking for that.

    And teachers making too much? Are you serious?

    Take the pay for the starting teacher in Fort Bend ISD.

    $42000 divided by 22 students = $1909.10 per student

    $1909.10 per student divided by 186 teaching days a school year = $10.26 per student per day

    $10.26 per student per day divided by 8 teaching hours per day = $1.28 per student per hour.

    Kind of makes babysitters who make at least $5.00 an hour seem like they are making off like bandits. And you say “we make too much.”

    John Portier

    April 1, 2008 at 8:11 pm

  5. $42,000 and you think you’re underpaid for working 6 hours a day for 8 months a year? Must be nice.

    thatsrightnate

    April 1, 2008 at 8:39 pm

  6. When you think about it this way, $1.28 an hour is an outrage! Who else in our society is more important than teachers? I think minimum wage x the number of students per hour is fair. A lot of people do this job just for the fact that they love it, and because they make a difference, unlike “businessmen” or lawyers. It’s a shame that our society is so directed toward the pursuit of the almighty dollar. Maybe if we paid teachers more then we’d get more respect for the most important members of our society. Or maybe you’d just like to get rid of the unions and make it so teachers can’t collectively bargain? Yeah, that sounds fair.

    If you’re worried about the quality of schools, why aren’t you worried that students would waste their time in class learning about your invisible sky-god and his son who lives in crackers and ripple?

    American History? How about World History? One of the problems with us Americans is that we don’t know enough about the outside world, and how America screws it up. Maybe if more Americans knew a little more about the outside world we wouldn’t be stuck in Iraq like this or quashing the Palestinians’ right to self-determination and safety.

    And why do you need an hour a day on gun safety? How about, “If you see a gun, call the police. If daddy has a gun, then call child protective services, tell them you’re scared for your safety, and find yourself a safer family to live with.” See, done. (Granted, not practical in all cases, but I wish more children had the courage of their convictions to do this.) A gun inside your house is nine times as likely to kill a family member than an intruder. The Second Amendment is pretty clear on this one. Member of a “well-regulated militia”? No? Well, you don’t have a right to a gun.

    I’m just glad that you’re such an openly-spoken Rethuglican. But your type hasn’t been able to keep their evil plans quiet long enough, and I think there’s going to be an Obamlanche come November. He’s not perfect, he’s not where we need to be on social issues and support for the Palestinian Resistance, but we’ll take him. Anything is better than HillarCaine.

    Thersites

    April 2, 2008 at 1:57 pm

  7. Guns don’t kill people. People kill people. I posted a wonderful study of how the gun control policy is failing in England.

    thatsrightnate

    April 2, 2008 at 4:14 pm

  8. China and Korea…Hmmm..Can you say communism?
    Is this the belief system that you wish to emulate?
    I mean, hey, don’t get me wrong; if you’re a communist, then that’s your right.
    I , however, have a problem with that form of government.

    andthebrain

    April 2, 2008 at 7:56 pm

  9. I’m not a communist.

    thatsrightnate

    April 2, 2008 at 9:15 pm

  10. I know you’re not a communist. Come on-the eagle, the flag, the right to bare arms stuff? I knew that if I baited you, you would need to say that you weren’t a communist.
    This is my exactly my point. I don’t think you realize that you are being baited into the current “anti-teacher sentiment” that has been floating around.
    I don’t know about where you live, but in the school that I work in, 75% of the teachers have 3 years or less experience. People leave in droves. It is literally impossible to keep teachers. Nobody wants to stay.
    Now, I’m in an inner city so it’s different.
    It’s very,very difficult. Our students come into high school with no motivation, and horrible behavior-they curse at teachers and basically do whatever they want. As teachers, we try to stop it; but when a child curses at a teacher or even pushes a teacher, they are usually sent right back to class.
    In addition, 90% of the 9th graders who enter my school read at a fifth grade level or below. How did they get to high school, you might ask, without being able to read? They’re passed through.
    Believe me, we try to do something, but we’re told to pass them. We don’t want them to go on, but we have no choice. The school makes us pass the students.
    If you really want to look at problems in education, then look at the policies that allow children to pass through school without being able to read and write.
    Yes, there are some really terrible teachers. In my experience, though, they are the minority. Most of us want our kids to succeed.

    andthebrain

    April 3, 2008 at 8:30 pm

  11. I still think a lot of the problem is teacher’s unions and lazy teachers–afterall like you say 90% of 9th graders aren’t even at a 6th grade level, but you make some really excellent points and express yourself very well.

    thatsrightnate

    April 3, 2008 at 8:33 pm

  12. Thanks for that.
    I’m not 100% sure what I feel about our union, and I have known some really lazy teachers. I’ve also known some really hardworking ones.
    I work in a high school and the teachers there blame the middle school teachers. The middle school teachers blame the elementary school teachers.
    The elementary school teachers that I know tell me that the kids come into kindergarten without knowing really basic stuff like how to tie their shoes and button their jackets, how to sit in their seats, etc. In the past, the kids came into school knowing all of this. The teachers just had to worry about teaching the kids how to read and write. Now, they spend most of their time on the other stuff.
    Again, I’m talking about the inner cities, so I’m not sure what’s happening in the suburbs.

    andthebrain

    April 3, 2008 at 9:11 pm

  13. I’m sure that it is much easier in the suburbs. Maybe the inner city teachers aren’t that lazy with all you have to put up with. However, the job is a lot easier with the supportive parents and more school ready children in the suburbs.

    thatsrightnate

    April 3, 2008 at 9:21 pm

  14. I think that I agree with you on this one.

    andthebrain

    April 5, 2008 at 8:05 pm

  15. We need a program that would enable the parents in the inner city to send their children to school out in the suburbs.

    thatsrightnate

    April 5, 2008 at 8:25 pm

  16. People are trying, believe me. Unfortunately, those inner city parents who have tried have been given a major run around.

    andthebrain

    April 5, 2008 at 8:45 pm

  17. But see that’s the problem. if these parents aren’t parenting they shouldn’t be given a choice. They’ll just do whatever’s easy. The parents who will go through the effort to send their kids to better schools don’t really need the better schools. Its the parents who won’t make the effort who do. They should have to send their kids out to the suburbs.

    thatsrightnate

    April 5, 2008 at 8:49 pm

  18. Now you’re getting into my my favorite topic-parental responsibility. Where I work, this topic is a big no-no.

    andthebrain

    April 5, 2008 at 8:54 pm

  19. You need to realize, we’re not parents in schools. We are teachers. The minute parents considered us fully in charge of their social, mental, and physical well being was the minute that we ALL lost control of our society.

    John Portier

    April 6, 2008 at 10:04 pm

  20. @John
    Absolutely.
    The real question is, why would anyone want to turn over the raising of their children to anybody? I don’t get it.

    andthebrain

    April 8, 2008 at 4:17 pm

  21. That’s why the Supreme Court needs to reassert the rights of homeschooling parents. If they don’t do you know how boring the National Spelling Bee will become?

    thatsrightnate

    April 8, 2008 at 4:35 pm

  22. LOL. Without a doubt.
    The only problem is the home schoolers seem to dominate, yet their social skills are ..well you know what I mean.
    Which is better? I really don’t have a clue.

    andthebrain

    April 8, 2008 at 6:49 pm


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