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Dark Knight Liberal Propaganda Is a Joke

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John "The Joker" McCain. Give Me a Break.

I hate going in to a movie expecting escapist entertainment and finding myself in a preachy political film.  Where to begin.  The Joker is extremely white while Batman is the “Dark Knight” obviously an allegory for McCain and Obama.  Batman refuses to resort to the Joker’s methods even when innocents are hurt–a comment on terrorism.  Then when Batman has a way to spy on everybody to look for evil he leaves it to the black Morgan Freeman to shut it down–obviously a way of commenting on Obama and the Patriot Act.  The movie was sickening.  People who went there looking for harmless escapism found instead liberal preachiness.  I miss Batman like they did when George Clooney played him.  That was Batman for the whole family.

We’re off to see McKinnley tomorrow before heading to Iowa to see Herbert Hoover.  There’s a lot going on that I’m missing including what I believe will be the first public building named after George Bush.  I’m looking forward to commenting on it when I return.

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Written by thatsrightnate

July 20, 2008 at 8:41 pm

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  2. wow. i had no idea the creators of the batman comic book were psychic. who knew they could see 40 years into the future and predict that obama and mccain would face off? i hope they bought lots of lottery tickets along the way.

    thatswrongnate

    July 21, 2008 at 11:53 am

  3. Oh the comic book creators didn’t, but the movie makers sure did.

    thatsrightnate

    July 21, 2008 at 4:01 pm

  4. wait. i thought batman wore black, and the joker’s face was white. or was that just a hollywood reinvention for the mccain-obama-off?

    thatswrongnate

    July 21, 2008 at 8:41 pm

  5. “The Joker is extremely white while Batman is the “Dark Knight” obviously an allegory for McCain and Obama. ”

    HUH????

    1. that’s RIDICULOUS — The Joker has been “very white” and the DARK knight black since their inception DECADES ago. Are you saying that DC comics knew McCain and Obama would face off against one another in the 40’s and 50’s????

    2. The movie began production and was almost finished BEFORE the candidates were chosen — would Batman have been a woman and the Joker a Mormon if Hillary and Mitt had been chosen????

    …You really don’t have a lot of talent at this

    Beonda Pale

    July 22, 2008 at 7:22 pm

  6. If anything it was conservative propaganda, regarding the recent (media ignored) retroactive immunity granted to telecoms for warrantless spying on US citizens. Liberal Media is a myth. Anything considered “liberal” is actually moderate. The left moved way to center to compete for you slack jawed yokels.

    Ryan

    July 22, 2008 at 10:12 pm

  7. Look, obviously what you people don’t get is that the Joker originally fell into a vat of chemicals which gave him a different appearance than the whiteface that Heath Ledger was wearing. The producers could easily see which way the political winds were going. As for the liberal media being a myth, puh-lease. Even Fox has gone way left in a way that I don’t appreciate.

    thatsrightnate

    July 22, 2008 at 11:53 pm

  8. once again, nate refuses to do his homework, and looks dumb as a result.

    “The Joker is a fictional character that appears in comic books published by DC Comics. The character first appeared in Batman #1 (Spring 1940), and was created by Bill Finger, Bob Kane and Jerry Robinson. The Joker is a master criminal, whose characterization has varied from a violent sociopath who murders people, causes chaos and commits crimes for his own amusement, to a goofy and virtually harmless trickster-thief. The character is the archenemy of Batman, and has been responsible for numerous tragedies in the Caped Crusader’s life, including the paralysis of Barbara Gordon (Batgirl/Oracle) and the murder of Jason Todd (the second Robin). Wizard magazine rated Joker as the greatest villain of all time.[2] The Joker’s real identity is unknown, and there have been different takes on his origin; the most common variation depicts him as having fallen into a vat of chemicals, which bleached his skin white, dyed his hair green and turned his lips bright red, giving him the appearance of a clown.”

    source:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joker_(comics)

    everytime you open your mouth, you look like a fool….

    thatswrongnate

    July 23, 2008 at 2:06 pm

  9. “What is suggested and largely accepted, however, is he was a petty thief duped into wearing the mask of the Red Hood to act as a costumed figurehead for thugs bent on robbing the Ace Chemical Processing Plant in Gotham City. Thwarted by Batman, the Red Hood fell into a vat of toxic chemicals that bleached his skin bone white, turned his hair green and left him with a crazed, ruby red, malignant rictus for a smile. Driven utterly insane, the Joker fixated upon Batman as his arch-nemesis. Depending on the writer, Joker heavily drinks and smokes, but still he has not suffered any ill side effects.”

    source (straight from the mouth of DC comics):
    http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Joker#Joker_.E2.80.A2_Jokester_.E2.80.A2_Red_Hood

    the joker’s always had white skin. batman’s always been the dark knight. the fact that you can randomly compare them to mccain and obama just shows how desperate you are to believe in the GOP’s rantings.

    everytime you open your mouth you make yourself look like a fool. well, at least it’s entertaining for the rest of us.

    thatswrongnate

    July 23, 2008 at 3:08 pm

  10. As I said, Ledger was obviously in whiteface as opposed to the classic skin bleaching ala Nicholson or Romero.

    thatsrightnate

    July 23, 2008 at 11:10 pm

  11. […] believe that for these reasons and the reasons I mentioned in the article Dark Knight Liberal Propaganda is No Joke I am calling all readers of this blog to boycott this movie.  Individually, there isn’t much […]

  12. You better give a “heads up” to the guys at the WSJ. They published an op-ed piece comparing the Batman to W. So you say it was liberal propaganda and they praise it as conservative justification –

    “There seems to me no question that the Batman film “The Dark Knight,” currently breaking every box office record in history, is at some level a paean of praise to the fortitude and moral courage that has been shown by George W. Bush in this time of terror and war. Like W, Batman is vilified and despised for confronting terrorists in the only terms they understand. Like W, Batman sometimes has to push the boundaries of civil rights to deal with an emergency, certain that he will re-establish those boundaries when the emergency is past.”

    G-Rant

    July 25, 2008 at 10:04 pm

  13. I agree with those points, but I don’t think that is what the producers of this film intended.

    thatsrightnate

    July 26, 2008 at 5:46 am

  14. So a “liberal” movie….?

    1. Justified torture as a reasonable tool for information gathering.
    2. Justified wire-tapping as necessary and only “just this once”.
    3. Terrorists cannot be reasoned with and are motivated by “watch the world burn”.
    4. To beat these people who thrive on chaos, law fails and sometimes you have to “burn down the whole forest”.
    5. Democracy fails on scene the two boats.
    6. Rules and law fail. “You would have us be reasonable people in cruel times!” and How can we fight crime if we play by the rules while the criminals don’t have any?
    7. Videos of captives harken to videos of captured civilians and soldiers in Iraq, while the overhead news footage of the blown up hospital resemble the aftermath of the twin towers.

    If anything, Batman can be an allegory for Bush. Batman does the right thing by fighting the “terrorists” even though it is seen as unpopular, unethical, and in some ways illegal. The people call for him to give up, but his friends tell him to “not give in to the demands of a terrorist”. Society will hate him, but eventually we will all see that those things needed to be done for the good of us all. He is the “hero the people need now but that they don’t want now”.

    But this is analysis that goes deeper than the imagry of the color black being an allegory for a black man, as you have suggested.

    Adam

    July 26, 2008 at 11:17 pm

  15. Correction to point 5 above: Sorry its late 🙂

    5. Democracy fails to come to reasonable decision in the scene where the two ferries are rigged with explosives.

    Which brings me to a thought. Since the most reasonable person in that scene was the big prisoner (played by Tommy ‘Tiny’ Lister), was he another allegory for Obama? Cause…you..know….he was black too.

    Adam

    July 26, 2008 at 11:28 pm

  16. Look I heard about these so called “tie-ins” with what is going on in today’s world and this movie and had to check out one for myself.

    Before I get started I live in Ireland far from all your homeland propaganda but unfortunately not far enough away that your filthy policies don’t have bearing on all of us.To hear this nonsense spouted by so called intelligent people is nothing short of hilarious. Every single one of your comments couldn’t be farther from the mark.

    Your justification of the joker’s “whiteness” is laughable as much so as the link to Obama being the Dark Knight. I know your current government regime is not so favorable but to try and justify yourself as a patriot as how it seems to me from this one snippet of site that I am willing to expose myself to (correct me if i am wrong by all accounts) and link this movie as to someway make democrats look more favorable is a farce.

    You have every right to stand for what you believe as is your way but to try and cheapen something that has been long established to warrant the fact that since the big man has come to power, this whole way of life has taken a worrying turn is wrong.

    Let me live you with this, when your beloved reds have to came power twice in the last three changeovers. Our world, not your world patriotic America but far be it from me to think that we all as a people have not all an equal right to be here. No matter who, what, when, how. No questions asked if we are human we are all the same. No dummy ideals, no America the beautiful the world does exist beyond your borders you know. To fight against terrorism, to fight for freedom. I have never seen a regime more narrow-minded and hypocritical in its pursuits for you are I am afraid for you in fact or what you hate and strife not to be.

    If anything this movie is the opposite to the message in which you believe. You have lost your way and have allowed yourselves to be manipulated into a state lead by fear. Fear of the unknown, the unestablished, what goes against the grain, anything that you don’t get handed down to you from above in your “free” nation. What America stood for has been swept to the wayside. Liberty and Justice for all. Please!

    Bismarck

    July 26, 2008 at 11:30 pm

  17. Not even going to mention the “bring back Clooney Batman days.” If that is what you warrant as a good representation of movie on film. There is no hope! Oh yeah just in case you forgot movies are for fun. The next time you go to see one leave your conspiracy theories at home and you know what try and enjoy yourself. You might actually surprise yourself and just have some fun learning to just accept things simply for what they are.

    Bismarck

    July 26, 2008 at 11:49 pm

  18. Adam, thanks for taking the time to go point by point. However, you are beyond wrong here:

    1. The only information gained under torture was incorrect. In fact when the guard attempted to torture Joker it was exactly what he wanted.
    2. After wire-tapping saved the city. It was preachy about how wrong it was. More liberal propaganda.
    3. This is an indisputable fact.
    4. Once again, indisputable.
    5. Democracy actually succeeds on board the two boats. One of the boats is full of criminals (America?) and saved when they put the black man in charge.
    6. However, in the end Batman does not violate his rules.
    7. You are agreeing with me here that the Joker and the forces of evil in this movie at time symbolize the terrorists

    thatsrightnate

    July 27, 2008 at 6:39 am

  19. Bismarck, I want to remind you that the economic miracle that Ireland has undergone has happened with Bush as President. That is the only reason the pub you’re in is able to get wi-fi and the only reason you’re able to preach anti-Americanism on this blog.

    thatsrightnate

    July 27, 2008 at 6:40 am

  20. You sir are a quack. It’s a movie. People like you trying to impose their divisive politics on every aspect of our culture are one of the reasons we are a looked down on outside of our own borders.

    Dan

    July 28, 2008 at 7:23 am

  21. And you sir are blind if you can’t see the propaganda right in front of your eyes.

    thatsrightnate

    July 28, 2008 at 11:32 am

  22. Anyone who thinks this movie symbolizes Obama and McCain is an idiot. In all of the movies, Batman has always worn black. In the 1989 Batman, Jack Nicholson had white face paint. Even in 1966, Cesar Romero wore white face paint. Also, who ever wrote that they liked George Cloony as Batman, demonstrated that they are indeed, the biggest idiot of all.

    The Dark Knight was awesome. Stop your conspiracy bs and get a job.

    Doc

    July 28, 2008 at 11:36 am

  23. For your information I was very close to being in the finalists for self storage of the year in the Midwest region. I certainly believe that that constitutes a job.

    thatsrightnate

    July 28, 2008 at 1:19 pm

  24. Great, use your abilities in designing “self storage” systems. Create a system that stores away your dumb theories and run-on sentences.

    “Best Batman film ever, go and see it everyone”

    Doc

    July 28, 2008 at 2:55 pm

  25. Ah, the uneducated masses have spoken. Save your time and rent Batman and Robin. I’m no fan of Arnold’s politics, but just hearing him say “chill out” is amazing.

    thatsrightnate

    July 28, 2008 at 3:25 pm

  26. So this is definitly correct. The liberals have spoken again (through batman) and now after watcching thier movie we will all become godless criminal loving, tax loving obamarats who all are gay and, if not, have had your girlfriend or wife had an abortion.

    Mr.Smart

    July 28, 2008 at 4:20 pm

  27. I wouldn’t go that far Mr. Smart, but I am sure that this is what the movie’s makers (several Europeans including the director) would like.

    thatsrightnate

    July 28, 2008 at 4:28 pm

  28. Nate, I haven’t seen you, or any one else, address the fact that both the Joker and Batman were played by immigrants. Don’t you think this is a message about the dangers of our open borders policies? I’d like to get your thoughts. They seem very astute on the rest of the film. Also, I thought Katie Holmes was much better than Maggie Gyllenhall.

    steve

    July 28, 2008 at 4:37 pm

  29. I still believe that there is nothing wrong with hiring immigrants as long as they will work cheaper than Americans. I also think that in an action movie it is probably hard to find Americans. The Hollywood leading men aren’t exactly manly anymore.

    thatsrightnate

    July 28, 2008 at 5:47 pm

  30. Your response to Adam’s 7 points was lame. Come on, “indisputable facts”…that’s a cop out answer. You call it fact that “terrorists cannot be reasoned with and are motivated by ‘watch the world burn’.” But have we tried reasoning with them at any point?…no, we’ve just bombed them and shot at them (Remember, we do not negotiate with terrorists).
    You also call it fact that “To beat these people who thrive on chaos, law fails and sometimes you have to ‘burn down the whole forest’.” I don’t completely disagree with this, but I do disagree that terrorists thrive simply on chaos. They also thrive on repression and violence, which U.S. policy has been more than happy to provide. Where do their growing numbers come from? From the poor and hungry and scared and angry, who hold on to their religion as the one and only thing that we can’t destroy.

    The Joker does not fit the profile of the typical terrorist. He’s a sociopathic psycho. Islamic terrorists are angry and defensive. But to call Joker a terrorist (repeatedly) is what makes this movie “tow-the-line” propaganda.

    What?

    July 30, 2008 at 8:53 am

  31. I really believe that those of you who focus so much on the Joker as terrorist propaganda totally miss the forest for the trees by ignoring the obvious Batman (Obama) Joker (McCain) allusions.

    thatsrightnate

    July 30, 2008 at 10:51 am

  32. The fact that the Dark Knight can be seen as both pro-bush or anti-bush propaganda speaks to its greatness. I don’t care what the political subtext is as long as there is some…
    Finally a comic book movie adults can enjoy!

    No one debates the meaning behind Batman and Robin because there was none.

    Hopefully future generations will learn from our mistakes and make sure that such a monstrous piece of celluloid excrement (B&R)is never filmed again.

    rexrube

    July 30, 2008 at 3:10 pm

  33. I’m sorry, Nate. You’re trying to use race to make your liberal propaganda point, but it just doesn’t hold water. Like other’s have said, the Joker’s white because of the clown-face thing. Batman’s black because…he’s a bat! It’s been this way for decades. The whole Morgan Freeman/black man shutting down the surveillance system thing you say alludes to Obama…Obama voted for FISA!! He’s allowing everyone to get away with surveillance! Obama is no Morgan Freeman.
    Again, this is more clearly an attempt to rewrite the storyline that we all come to expect when it comes to issues surrounding the rule of law and the use of surveillance in the fight against terrorism. The outlaw goodguy (that we all love…including me) who breaks the rules to get the undeniably bad badguy and to save all of the innocent civilians. He does this under the assumption that the law isn’t sufficient when it comes to dealing with the Joker/terrorism. But if the system of law isn’t good enough, fix it…don’t ignore it.

    What?

    July 30, 2008 at 9:33 pm

  34. Well you finally said something I agree with. Obama is certainly no Morgan Freeman.

    thatsrightnate

    July 31, 2008 at 2:31 pm

  35. […] On July 24th, I called on the readers of the blog to boycott the Dark Knight movie as the piece of liberal propaganda that it was.  Your response has been both overwhelming and humbling for me.  Together we are […]

  36. It’s a bit of a stretch to claim that McCain’s the joker simply because he’s white.

    However, I think Bush was Batman; he entrusted people’s civil liberties into one person (Morgan Freeman). The film criticized him for spying on people/torturing people because Batman spied on people and the Joker said that he’d turned Batman dark.

    If McCain was anybody, he was Two-Face, since Two-Face “took the [damage]” from the Joker, just as McCain is being painted as a third Bush term.

    Steve S.

    August 5, 2008 at 12:24 pm

  37. I appreciate your commentary Steve, but I think if you look hard enough you can find symbolism anywhere. You make a good case, but I believe you’re overlooking the obvious leftwing propaganda.

    thatsrightnate

    August 5, 2008 at 7:29 pm

  38. I am definitely going to have to say that the argument presented for “The Dark Knight” being “liberal” propaganda is a joke.

    The argument is based on the color of characters in a comic book that has been around for decades.

    This blog post almost seems like it was created in order to distract people from the possibility that this movie could be propaganda for the Bush administration.

    Although I do not necessarily think this is the case, I feel like if this film was propaganda it would certainly be in favor of the GOP.

    Consider the 7 points by Adam “1. Justified torture as a reasonable tool for information gathering.
    2. Justified wire-tapping as necessary and only “just this once”.
    3. Terrorists cannot be reasoned with and are motivated by “watch the world burn”.
    4. To beat these people who thrive on chaos, law fails and sometimes you have to “burn down the whole forest”.
    5. Democracy fails on scene the two boats.
    6. Rules and law fail. “You would have us be reasonable people in cruel times!” and How can we fight crime if we play by the rules while the criminals don’t have any?
    7. Videos of captives harken to videos of captured civilians and soldiers in Iraq, while the overhead news footage of the blown up hospital resemble the aftermath of the twin towers.”

    These 7 points constitute a logical argument. The things discussed within the 7 points are things that the film-makers actually had an influence on. It would be highly unlikely that the film makers had an influence on what color batman and the joker would be, since this was determined decades ago. However the context in the story is certainly something the writers and filmmakers could have manipulated to generate a certain public response.

    Counter pointing 3 and 4 saying that these are “indisputable facts” is telling of the ignorance of the person countering. A terrorist in the real world has an agenda and an objective. Terrorists don’t cause chaos simply for the sake of causing chaos, although this is certainly what the government wants us to think. It makes it easier to vilify the bad guys if we are told that they are simply irrational religious zealots (which they are, but there is far more to it than that) who want nothing more than to make us suffer.

    Burning down the whole forest(city/state/nation) in order to bring a chaos maker to justice is egregious. If it ever gets to this point it will be in-decipherable who is the villain and who is the hero considering the “hero” at this point is causing more damage than the villain. If it gets to this point I would rather be ruled by terrorists than be killed by the “hero”

    Point 5 was counterpointed by saying “Democracy actually succeeds on board the two boats. One of the boats is full of criminals (America?) and saved when they put the black man in charge.”

    Democracy did not succeed at all! How you could mistake what happened on the boats for democracy is beyond me. They took a vote, and then the ones in power decided to disregard the vote. In the movie, this ended up being a good thing, as everybody lived.

    There is a lot of context here and all you seem to be able to do is look at colors to make your opinion rather than the context of the film. Its the opposite of color blindness, you are context blind.

    Now I am not saying that this film is GOP propaganda, what I am saying is that there is an infinitely better case for this being GOP propaganda rather than liberal propaganda.

    nornerator

    August 7, 2008 at 7:28 am

  39. According to the director of the film he based the chaos of Gotham on Iraq.

    “Burning down the whole forest(city/state/nation) in order to bring a chaos maker to justice is egregious. If it ever gets to this point it will be in-decipherable who is the villain and who is the hero considering the “hero” at this point is causing more damage than the villain. If it gets to this point I would rather be ruled by terrorists than be killed by the “hero””

    Aha! Thank you for proving my point. This sounds very much like the liberal reaction to 9/11.

    “Democracy did not succeed at all! How you could mistake what happened on the boats for democracy is beyond me. They took a vote, and then the ones in power decided to disregard the vote.”

    Once again an illusion to the director’s liberal bias in his view of the 2001 Election.

    From your writing I would assume you are either a socialist or an atheist, possibly both. I believe you are probably so far left that you see the left leanings of the director and look at them from a viewpoint that they are still right of you. If I was wrong about this propaganda I can guarantee you that the Dark Knight boycott would not have been nearly this successful.

    thatsrightnate

    August 7, 2008 at 7:14 pm

  40. Hmm. Where to begin.

    Well, for one, The Dark Knight was written and in production long before Obama was the clear Democratic Nominee over Clinton, even before McCain was the clear Republican Nominee. As a matter of fact, the Nolan brothers wrote the script in 2006, BEFORE OBAMA EVEN DECLARED THAT HE WOULD RUN – and before you start saying that they changed the script once Obama got all popular, you should note that the Nolan brothers were stuck with what they’d written once they started shooting in April 07, back when Obama was a nobody and Clinton was the expected Democratic nominee. “John ‘the joker’ McCain. Give me a break” – couldn’t have said it better, pal.

    Second, the race comments. I’m not sure if you’re capable of comprehending this, or if it will even mean anything to you, but your comments are xenophobic to the point of being absurd. I mean, Bruce Wayne/Batman is WHITE – a white billionaire, no less. The writers, directors, producers, investors of The Dark Knight – ALL WHITE. They even go so far as to have a “token black guy” in Morgan Freeman – and on top of all this, the guy that steals all the American Mob’s money is from CHINA. So I guess it’s not that surprising to me that you took issue with the way race was portrayed in this film – Hollywood is, aside from mainstream rap music, the most potent propagator of unbalanced and degrading race stereotypes on the planet. What’s shocking is that you actually managed to squeeze an ANTI-WHITE sentiment out of a film featuring almost exclusively Anglo-Saxons (again, Lucius Fox and the Chinese Mobster excluded), a film that’s been heralded by The Wall Street Journal as a “paean of praise to the fortitude and moral courage” of George W. Bush. Hmm.

    And regarding your response to some of the more reasonable comments you’re received so far: what on earth does “Ledger was obviously in whiteface as opposed to the classic skin bleaching ala Nicholson or Romero” mean? What the frack is whiteface? Hasn’t the Joker’s face always been white, regardless of which origin story you prefer? Hence…he’s always had a WhiteFace? Why are you scared of black people?

    Still, I’m not going to deny that The Dark Knight provokes some deep questions, some of them political, and I’m definitely going to agree with you on the point that this movie isn’t for the whole family – it’s pretty gruesome, and I could see how folks with more fragile emotional dispositions might find Harvey Dent’s scarring and Heath Ledger’s performance “sickening”. But the way you argue your points by referring to some kind of impossible “liberal” (anti-white??) conspiracy – impossible because Obama wasn’t even running when the script was being written, impossible because Hollywood is the most overwhelmingly powerful Pro-White force active today – which you back up by citing the color of Bruce Wayne’s suit and Morgan Freeman’s skin (!!!) is far more sickening to me.

    Please, seek help. You are part of the problem.

    John

    August 8, 2008 at 1:29 am

  41. “and on top of all this, the guy that steals all the American Mob’s money is from CHINA. ”

    Thank you for pointing this out to me. I hadn’t thought about that. This is the directors’ way of saying Obama (Batman) will get the jobs back we have lost from China. Yet another point of left wing bias.

    thatsrightnate

    August 8, 2008 at 7:01 am

  42. why is that left wing bias? i would think that getting american jobs back would be a very right wing plan.

    i haven’t had the time to enjoy your silly posts for a couple of weeks. i’ve been on vacation, and decided to leave my computer at home. can’t wait to catch up on all the absurdity that comes out of your uneducated brain.

    oh, and sorry you missed out on storageman of the year. that’s a real heartbreaker. must have been a plot by obama to keep you down.

    thatswrongnate

    August 8, 2008 at 12:11 pm

  43. Glad to have you back. Did you follow my Presidential Museum Trail?

    thatsrightnate

    August 8, 2008 at 6:28 pm

  44. i sure did. it sounded super-terrific. i dropped a few comments among the rivetting posts about such important men like taft, et al.

    thatswrongnate

    August 9, 2008 at 7:30 am

  45. I meant is that where you went on your vacation?

    thatsrightnate

    August 9, 2008 at 8:56 am

  46. Well fuck me, the country is still stupid.

    This propaganda has very little to do with conservative or liberal. You stupid people that infest this country don’t even know what conservative or liberal means.

    This is clearly a propaganda film. It’s fascist propaganda film. Fascism isn’t conservative, and it’s not liberal. It’s pro state, anti-individual rights.

    Richard Wicks

    August 10, 2008 at 2:13 pm

  47. this is embarrassing! THE MOVIE WAS BEING FILMED LONG BEFORE ANYTHING THOUGHT OBAMA EVEN HAD A CHANCE IN THE ELECTION!!! this must be a joke. the movie was conservative propaganda if anything! a rouge playboy stopping at nothing to end the terrorism. even using his own patriot act to do it with the cell phone thing. i’m a conservative to an extent and i hate liberals but this WAS NOT a liberal movie!!

    Leland

    August 11, 2008 at 3:57 pm

  48. Wow, some of you obviously enjoyed the movie and now are in denial of its insidious message.

    thatsrightnate

    August 11, 2008 at 6:06 pm

  49. Wow some of you are obviously morons.

    Clearly when the unrated director’s commentary version comes out we’ll see the Mr. Nolan shot versions to back up whoever the left-wing candidate was going to be.

    If Hillary had won they were prepared to release a version where Maggie Gyllenhal doesn’t die. She becomes Bat Girl.

    Which is clearly just a message to reassure the left that if Hillary won she’d be guided in her crusade by the stalwart hand of her mentor (Bill/Batman)

    GoNateGo

    August 14, 2008 at 10:40 am

  50. Thanks you for bringing some sanity to the debate

    thatsrightnate

    August 14, 2008 at 11:49 am

  51. Okay, so I skipped all the comments. Forgive me. Feel free to copy and paste or direct me to the ones that would be relevant to answer me these questions three:

    1. So which one is supposed to represent Obama and why: Batman or Lucius Fox? Assuming there is criteria beyond having an identity tied to the color black, because you didn’t seem to think that Gambol could be representing Obama.
    2. If the Joker is supposed to represent McCain, what about the Joker is at all like McCain?
    3. What is the underlying liberal message? You keep saying that such-and-such is an obvious commentary on this-and-that, but you don’t say what that commentary is.

    Some other thoughts:

    IF, indeed, Batman is Obama, then the movie is explicitly stating that everybody hates him and that he has to pretend to be somebody he isn’t in order to do good. Which I don’t really think liberals believe about their hero. Remember, Obama is purportedly a symbol of honesty and hope, not one of mystery and loathing.

    Captain Fuzzy

    August 14, 2008 at 1:23 pm

  52. Hahaha. Funny post. People in the comments think you’re serious.

    Tironius

    August 14, 2008 at 2:18 pm

  53. You’re missing the boat Tironius. My brother-in-law Nate is SERIOUS. He doesn’t have a humorous boner in his body. There’s no room with all the donuts and Bud Light with lime.

    steve

    August 14, 2008 at 2:51 pm

  54. Steve, did you write a “humorous BONER”? Is that wishful thinking or is this blog really becoming pornographic, with all those sexual allusions? I think now Nate will definitely ban you. So long, Steve.

    Lola

    August 14, 2008 at 6:04 pm

  55. I did not write that! Nate is trying to play a funny and show us his sense of humor. It’s mostly potty humor.

    steve

    August 14, 2008 at 6:21 pm

  56. Captain Fuzzy,

    The Joker is clearly a stand-in for McCain.

    1. the Joker and McCain both desire having their fingers on the trigger.
    2. the Joker burns a pile of money, McCain wants to burn our tax dollars by continuing a “hundred-year war.”
    3. both have been held hostage and tortured.
    4. they both wear makeup (though McCain says his is only for tv appearances).
    5. they both have facial scars.

    Also the liberal commentary in the film is so obvious that if we restated it we’d only be giving it credence.

    GoNateGo

    August 15, 2008 at 3:06 pm

  57. wow dude get over yourself. the batman and the joker have been enemies for a long time. i guess that the tv show and the first batman movie also predicted this political showdown. give me a break

    george

    August 16, 2008 at 10:53 pm

  58. […] thing I was really happy to see was that liberal propaganda piece The Dark Knight has been knocked from the top spot in part, thanks to our boycott.  In its place is the patriotic […]

  59. […] himself outside the law, but destroys his own phone-tapping technology. Is he a Conservative? A Liberal?2 A […]

  60. I know satire when I read it, but after reading the comments, I’m worried that I might be the only one.

    OMG! Clooney was totally the BEST Batman EVER!

    Thanks for the laugh, I enjoyed it.

    Emily

    August 21, 2008 at 10:57 pm

  61. all of the themes in the movie have been in the comics for decades. the joker always was basically a terrorist, albeit one with no motive other than playing with batman. violence among heroes and villians always ends up destroying parts of cities. batman to my knowledge always stood to the rule of not killing. if anything the political element was the joker getting ideological about “chaos” and “anarchy” and how people abandon their morality when it is opportunistic to do so, also the comments about how people dont care if gangbangers or soldiers die. i’d probably give you the wire tapping as well, but thats about it.

    d/0

    August 24, 2008 at 3:16 am

  62. For my own reasons I found The Dark Knight to acutally be very right wing.

    A qustion to right wing fools everywhere; How can Liberalism be propeganda when it’s conservatism that has all the power and money? Until a liberal government takes power in America the only reason for liberalism is for a very small commercial front and people who want the violence and injustice to end.

    It almost seems fasionable in America to hate liberals. I think you need to be reminded who actually owns the airways and why they want you to hate a completely harmless demographic.

    Forking

    September 3, 2008 at 6:54 pm

  63. I really can’t believe the logic that went behind an article like this.

    John Mora

    October 13, 2008 at 3:17 pm

  64. You have completely forgotten to address the point that every representation of the Joker ever since his very inception has portrayed his skin as being completely white and that batman has always worn a black costume. Bleached skin or whiteface, his skin is still pale-white either way.

    nick

    October 13, 2008 at 5:06 pm

  65. That is very untrue. Before the Civil Rights Movement, Batman was usually seen in less controversial blue.

    thatsrightnate

    October 13, 2008 at 5:12 pm

  66. Just about the George Clooney statement, The dark Knight was such an awesome film. If you really liked those days of Batman and Robin, Batman Returns, and Batman Forever, better than the new ones, than…..wow. You have no taste in film. Although the Keaton Batman was a great movie.

    brandon

    November 2, 2008 at 3:17 pm

  67. The Joker is portrayed as unlike the comics, he’s got more in common to Osama bin Laden.

    morpheus

    November 15, 2008 at 2:41 pm

  68. Obama is not a dark knight, he’s extremely popular and elected president. Question is, there could easily be a Joker, who is more menacing than McCain, someone who would make the McCain opposition a bad joke.

    morpheus

    November 15, 2008 at 2:44 pm

  69. The dark Knight was such an awesome film. If you really liked those days of Batman and Robin, Batman Returns, and Batman Forever, better than the new ones, than…..wow. You have no taste in film. Although the Keaton Batman was a great movie.

    -brandon

    Fact.

    ForeverProlonged

    November 16, 2008 at 7:11 am

  70. Well obviously I was right–you don’t see the movie in theaters anymore do you?

    thatsrightnate

    November 16, 2008 at 9:42 am

  71. I cannot stand ignorant pieces of shit like you thatsrightnate. You sir, are as dumb as they come. Your only retaliation to Bismark, was to say that he was in a pub, an obvious stereotype. Are you fucking serious? This isn’t the 1800’s, sorry slavery doesn’t exist anymore you menial douchebag. You know why you don’t have a job? And why you almost got something, but didn’t win. Because we know. We can see through your bullshit, so stop living in the fucking clouds and get a grip on reality. Peace fucker

    youarethebiggestjokeever

    December 23, 2008 at 10:48 am

  72. Wow–you really should avoid violent movies like this if they upset you so much. I do have a job. I own one of the most successful self-storage companies in the entire midwest.

    thatsrightnate

    December 23, 2008 at 1:27 pm

  73. Cool, it’s the Onion, except it’s just bitterly sarcastic and not at all funny. Like Ann Coulter if she was sane.

    fuzzywzhe

    December 31, 2008 at 5:11 pm

  74. I love how this moron thinks his little boycott put a dent in the box office earnings of the fourth highest grossing film of all time. Yeah, you and your tiny band of slack-jawed midwestern yokels banding together really shaved untold amounts off the one billion USD that Warner Bros grossed off of this. Stick to dairy farming and keep your delusions to yourself douchebag.

    Ophelia Wong

    November 20, 2009 at 6:43 am

  75. I dare you to go back in the cinema, wait for an atpropriape scene and when everyone laughs say “That’s NOT funny, aa0man died, don’t you people have SOULS, Ia0mean really, laughing at aa0man dying because he had aa0pencil pushed through his head.… actually that is kinda funny, sorry, please goa0on…”

    Larissa

    May 21, 2012 at 8:47 pm


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